Talk:Feature Article Candidates

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Ohwilleke 14:53, 1 Jun 2005 (PDT) I appreciate having an article I've written on the front page and all, but I think its time for some new blood. How about the FOIA article?

--Centerfielder 04:55, 2 Jun 2005 (PDT) Good idea... as is my previous request that you be the Feature Article Guy. Now that some time has passed and you're more familiar with things do you want to reconsider?

--Pyrrho 11:48, 22 Jun 2004 (PDT) Lost a comment here... I proposed PNAC on the Article Candidate page, and I was going to move my vote from Polling but I left it. That is, I have two votes of support. It occurs to me that one might want to support a subset of the pages rather than just one page, ala "approval voting". If you object, say so here and in fact feel free to remove the vote under "Polling"... I really like the PNAC article.

--Jumbo 05:12, 20 Jun 2004 (PDT) Can we just go down the list so we test out the feature articles section. I think people are more likely to vote if they actually notice the feature articles. Make it last a week. So go: Leo Strauss, Polling, John Kerry, and see if that encourages more voting and nominating. And have a diary entry on dKos announcing the new feature article every Monday.

--Centerfielder 09:27, 20 Jun 2004 (PDT) Sure. I'll wait for comments and if there are no objections then put it up later today. (Which is more correct - "Feature Article" or "Featured Article"? My English major gene is failing me here...)

--Jumbo 18:47, 20 Jun 2004 (PDT) Er...how bout "Article of the Week".

--Pyrrho 17:04, 18 Jun 2004 (PDT)

Centerfielder, also refer here to my previous attempt. Yours is similar. I like yours better (feels like an incremental improvement pluss I like characterizing the vote (i.e. "support", btw what other keywords might their be, oppose, strongly oppose, etc, ???)), with one exception. I think we should use the psuedo namespace of Vote:, i.e. Vote:Feature Article Candidates. It's a naming convention rather than an actual namespace, but this will help us when/if we write wiki bots, as I'd like to, to tally votes, etc.

--Centerfielder 19:03, 18 Jun 2004 (PDT) I haven't commented on the Vote: namespace idea yet because I'm still thinking about it. In this particular case I'm not sure it works, as there's more going on than just voting on one particular issue; there's discussion and all on a number of proposed FA pages. In general, I think the Vote: namespace should be used to discuss and vote on one particular issue/problem/whatever. Perhaps some main page of issues to be discussed and voted upon, consisting of just problem statements (Should We Accept Blogads) and links to the pages where discussion and voting can take place (Vote:Should We Accept Blogads). Maybe this main page should be in the Meta space. Maybe we have too many namespaces.

In any case, having a bot (or bots) roving around doing stuff seems like a good idea. Yes, there's a Python bot available somewhere, but I've successfully avoided Python until now (Vote:Should Centerfielder be Forced to Learn Python) and I'm not anxious to start. I'll think some about writing a perlbot...

--Pyrrho 20:16, 18 Jun 2004 (PDT) lol. Me, I've been waiting for an excuse to use Python since 1995 :) I've fiddled with it a little using Zope but very little. I can't find the source for those bots. If I don't find them, I'm with you, perl. Actually I'm thinking of C++ (yes, I lie not... it's my favorite) too if I have to start from scratch. The Wikipedia voting system is to have the options and place your vote underneath. You also have talk:vote:whatever to use for discussion, and a certain amount of content beyond votes is not problem really. Then you can search for all "Vote:*" articles and find all the voting action. Of course I realize the idea of using tally bots means you have to have conforming vote formats... a bigger problem than writing the bots themselves!

btw, I'm curious to discuss your idea... looks like you want to import whole articles or at least excerpts right to the main page, as opposed to having links and a teaser description. I'm neutral on the difference right now... though I was originally thinking the latter. Also, I'm thinking maybe an adendum to all this is a Showcase Page of some sort that is a page of it's own to showcase the wiki both to show good work and to solicit work on particular areas.

--Centerfielder 18:51, 18 Jun 2004 (PDT) I thought it would be just enough of an article to fill the Featured Article space, with a "More..." link or something to real thing. I think it should be as much of the real article as possible - people get a kick out of seeing their work on a front page of a dare-I-say major political website; it should help bring people in and keep them contributing. A "Showcase" page sounds interesting; we certainly do need ways to solicit contributions. I've been throwing the odd diary entry out there - sometimes it works... In effect the Previous Featured Articles page would act as an index to exceptionally written articles...

--Pyrrho 19:00, 18 Jun 2004 (PDT) not much to say, good answers, I wanted you to know I read it. I guess I like your idea of using the article text (plus a "more" link), it also solves a portion of the who writes the summary page in many cases. cheers.

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